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Given 2010-01-04
The suggester says: ''I love it for obvious reason: a true message in a very appealing package'' RANT by *xyphid ( Suggested by pica-ae and Featured by Sander-Seto )
Alon98 Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
...Well, I don't like them. And I know they're everywhere. I try to avoid them.
diknewman Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I understand if they don't want to hear your input on the design. They did hire you based on your style so your input should be valid. If however they do listen to you and make changes or allow you the freedom to make changes that you see fit to work with their design, then there is no room to complain. If you do  communicate the things you may see that don't work in an articulate way and they don't listen then go on rant I am with you on that.
IceFeather9110 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
this is okay as long as i'm paid, requests, only if it's a best friend or an IOU.
lovebeyondhope Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2014
StargazerDesign Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2014  Hobbyist Interface Designer
wengaiden Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2014
i though was just inverse idea: we are designers, not a fucking developers
(in my case game designer, dont know yours specific design area...)
Lightningborn Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2014  Student Interface Designer
I couldn't agree more!
OctoHat Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014  Student Digital Artist
i really love the placement of color here, the contrast is perfect and the viewer's eye gets directy to the
screwdriver :D
neodrac54 Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Can I get this on a T-Shirt? Like... Stat?
1DeViLiShDuDe Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nice! :D

Anyone providing a service also has the option of accepting which
projects to do, but I can see how irritating it would be if everyone
that contacted you for work - hadn't really thought out their idea!

LadyNanako Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014
But If You Are Getting Payed For It...It's Kind Of Your Job To Execute Them. That Like That One Animator Chick On Youtube Who Made A Big Show Of Telling Her Boss She Quit Over The Fact She Did Not Get To Draw What She Wanted. It's A Job. You Do What You're Payed For And If You're Not Happy Doing It You Find Something Else To Do. It's Kind Of Entitled To Think You Can Get Payed To Do Whatever You Want When What You Do Comes From People Paying You To Do What THEY Want-Freelance Art And Payed Art Sometimes ARE The Same Thing (If You Create And Sell Them Yourself) But Not Always (Like When Your Job Is Drawing What Your Paycheck Tells You To). Agree Or Disagree All You Want-But It's A Cold Truth. Good Day To You Sir/Madam.
lavi1443 Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I have to agree.
No one's forcing you to get payed for designing.
Good luck finding people who will decide what theme they are looking for based on your self-satisfaction designs of what "you want to design without anyone telling you what to do".  
LadyNanako Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2014
Glad You Agree. I Mean Don't Get Me Wrong I Know Art Is Not Always Easy But If You Want To Draw Art On Your Own Terms You Sell Peaces On Your Own. If Your Get Payed To Draw On Someone ELSE'S Terms Then That's What You Do And That's What You CHOSE To Do. I May Not Know Everything About This Stuff Since I Can't Draw To Save My Life But Logic Is Logic And You Do What People Pay You To Do If You Intend To Use Any Skill To Make Money.
drtimdawg Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014
Made my day.  Seriously.  Clap 
ZemZorz Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Swimminbird Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes! I agree!
TheOneAndOnlyToaster Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2014
i agree tenfold!
Frozen10 Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2014  Hobbyist Interface Designer
Amen to that !
K-D-Bryson Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
This should be on a shirt
and ... I now have a new desktop background. :)

M1dnightMuse Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
very entertaining... does it come in white?
alessandro348 Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2014
But how good are you at designing screwdrivers? 
Get this made into a t-shirt already!
DarkProphet05 Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Bravo, as a fellow graphic designer I applaud this rant.
C4ArtZ Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Too bad nearly nobody will ever notice how much work Photmanipulation, Animations or any other kind of Art is...
Luthien42 Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Except the ones who had tried it at least... ;)
jingzhong8628 Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
KittyKatanya Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I like rants.
ametuerdraw Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2014
Say that to your art director. I don't care if you work at pixar or dreamworks you'll be fired on all occasions. 
Commander-Bentley Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Amen! I don't want someone working on my team who's going to gripe about my "ugly idea," and I'm certainly not going to complain about orders I get when I'm being paid.
motionwind Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
some people seem confused. Clients don't hire designers to execute their ugly ideas. (or should not) That's not their job. They hire designers to help them figure out what is the idea and how to make it work, what they pay is first of all the visual expertise and then the product itself
Commander-Bentley Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Actually it really should be the former. I expect all my clients to have clear, concise ideas of what they want, and most industry professionals I've spoken/worked with (at least in the concept art field) have always preferred that they be told almost explicitly what the client wants, so there's no room for error and they (the designer) don't waste a lot of time guessing at what the client wants. Granted, it's expected of the artist to make suggestions to improve the piece, but ultimately it is the paying customer's final decision.
Runelda Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2014
I laughed so hard I choked on my sucker...
MarcinG1 Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Damn, sooo true :).
C0nstantFailure Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
so true. 
Romeryo Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's true. A designer should have his own handwriting and style and should be hired only, if the client can see his project going in a similar direction. If he just wants his idea realized he can simply go to people who do just that, e.g. Frontend Developers in Webprogramming who do nothing but program the site exactly as the designs show.

But I think it's also necessary to communicate accordingly. If the designer says he does everything and takes every job, there's no wonder the client will ask of stuff the designer deems false or inefficient. The better the designer promotes himself and the more specialized he is, the less jobs he might get, but at least the ones he will get are the ones where he can shine.

But a good designer also needs to be a good salesman and be diplomatic, so if we're realistic we know we cannot turn every offer down that won't necessarily go into our portfolio afterwards, and adjust to the type of client we get. Some are cool and easy, and others will be nitpicks and pricks, so it's the designers job to consult the client to his best knowledge and if he won't get heard he simply does what he's asked of, even if the result will suck. Just be sure to setup contracts that cover all the problems, in case the client doesn't like "his" version after all. Time's been spent and time's oughta be paid. 
postplague Featured By Owner Edited Jun 30, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
As someone who's worked in graphic design for a while, it seems incredibly limiting to have a "style". Design in its best form should be problem-solving in conjunction with art. As much as humans have their specialties and preferences--god knows I do--you should be able to take a direction or thought from a client and make that direction or thought beautiful (or at least agreed upon by the relevant parties). If one client owns a french restaurant and wants high-class menus made that articulate their cultural background, you'd do something COMPLETELY different from a client who wants an ad campaign promoting their economical line of cars. Of course you'll add your voice and professional perspective to it, but why not be able to see, understand, and create in the voice of a wide range of styles? How can you possibly be expected to answer the demands of a graphics industry if you have YOUR look and can't do anything for anyone who might not fit that look?

If you were an illustrator or someone more purely an artist in the classical sense, there could be an argument made for style exclusivity, but in my experience that doesn't necessarily get you far in this particular industry. Maybe if you're, say, the hyper-realistic icons guy, and you have one thing you kick everyone else's ass at, but for the vasty majority of people that just isn't feasible.
demran Featured By Owner Edited Jun 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Designers are artist... Yes, they probably have their own style and ideas of beauty, BUT, as an artist ( and not only, everybody should be aware of this), one should know that ugliness is relative and totally subjective. There's no such thing as "ugly idea" just a "different idea"... And if something from that idea is really not suitable, a designer can try to explain that to the clients.
BUT firstly and most important, a designer should know and understand their clients. A designer ( as any artist that does something for a client) should know what their client wants, the client's preferences, ideas and expectations. An artist has to challange their creativity in order to fit into someone's else ideas. Sure, all of this applies when it comes to money and getting paid.
Designers, musicians, painters etc they are all free to express themselves through their art whenever they want. That's the beauty of art! 
But when it comes to working for someone, an artist needs to express what their clients cannot. 
Alloci Featured By Owner Edited Jun 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
My opinion? You should do what the clients want, or you're not getting paid. I am not a professional, but I'm pretty sure the reason they hire you is to execute their ugly ideas, no matter how horrid it is. I suppose you could tweak your rejected ideas a bit, then sell the art to people who would appreciate it.
Gulptan Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
But that is exactly what your job is.
kristianbangsoe Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2014
Soo true
markedforpower Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2014   Digital Artist
This is so important. You are important. Thank you for this.
Mazdi Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
Also LOVE the typeface.
Mazdi Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
People who say you're whining have never worked as a designer, clearly....
paulzosim Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
shut up and do your job. the most overvalued job in the consumers world. Ahooooy Matey! 
aurorafreelance Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Freelance designer here for about 10 years... If you want paid, you make the client happy. If you want to be broke then keep your artistic integrity. Simple as that!
HavocWraith Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014
Can.. Can I hang this up in my office? 
sasdef Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I want this to be on my t shirt :)
OcioProduction Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
TedTonkin Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2014
mmhmmmm. right on! I agree.
JosephWallace Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2014  Student General Artist
As a designer currently working in the field, I have to say I fully disagree with you. That's exactly what a designer does. They are literally a tool for people to filter their ideas through. Most of the time when a client wants something, they know what they want it to look like; they convey this idea to you, you design it. If they want you to take that design and put sparkly rainbows and unicorn stickers all over it, guess what? you do that. Because they are paying you to make the design look the way THEY WANT IT TO LOOK. What you are saying is the equivalent to going into subway to have them make you a sandwich you want a certain way, And they get mad because that's not the way they think it should be compiled. You would tell them to shut their mouth and make it the way you want it, if they want your business.

That being said, if a client comes to you and tells you to go wild (which will happen) go for it. Otherwise, make the damn sandwich they asked for.
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